Editorial Reviews. From Publishers Weekly. A former submarine commander in Britain’s Royal Navy, Menzies must enjoy doing battle. The amateur historian’s. In The Year China Discovered America (), aspires to rewrite world history on a grand scale. He maintains that Gavin Menzies)four Chinese fleets. On 3/8/, the largest fleet the world had ever seen set sail from China. by Gavin Menzies by Gavin Menzies The Devil in the White City by Erik.
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Zheng He commissioned, built and commanded a Chinese Imperial fleet that sailed through the Menziies of Malacca, and into the Indian Ocean to Calicut, possibly East Africa, and other countries. They also reviewed Gavin Menzies proposal that Zheng He sailed all the way to America, and even established colonies there, as told in his book, The basic idea that China had a seafaring fleet that roamed far and wide, and explored lands that have never visited by the Chinese before is very plausible, and there are lots of evidence for it.
It is sad though that Menzies had to gxvin into the realms of pseudo-science, and held on to outrageous claims that lack evidence, such 14221. When faced with mdnzies facts, Menzies was 142 and civil. However, he held on to menzkes belief that he will be proven right eventually. He quoted as evidence that his web site gets thousands of visits, and thousands of emails menzeis enthusiasts!
It is sad that well meaning and energetic people get caught into their own pseudoscience preconceptions, and start discarding the evidence against them. InChina and Singapore were celebrating years of Zheng He by holding exhibits. Menziez – a whole appendix of the book is devoted to this subject and indeed using the Chinese methods the process was repeated at an eclipse in gavkn Pacific and shown to be very accurate.
The Chinese had been very good astronomers for years before the voyages were made. The Bimini rocks – apparently some of the rocks are not native to the area. A plausible case is made for some of the rock to be ship ballast and the reason for building them is that they are slipways for re-launching repaired ships.
It is not clear whether Khalid has read the book but is relying on the TV program. The book has exhaustive detail and whilst I read everything with a pinch of salt I do think that there is much better than evens chance Menzies is correct in most of what he writes. The number of coincidences that would be required for some things to occur independently in different parts of the world does provide a problem to be explained. I cannot do justice to it all but it is certainly worth reading.
Wikipedia has an article dedicated to the hypothesiswhich lists some detailed criticism, specially about the Chinese discovering Austrialia. An article by Geoff Wade describing as a fairytale and fiction.
Salon has an article describing the book as an “object lesson in amateurish research, slapdash editing and publishing greed”. Gavin Menzies and the Chinese Discovery of America. A book review by John Wills mentions the PBS program, and how Menzies is cross-examined on camera, politely but firmly, and several times has to admit that he may be mistaken on a particular point.
Bill Hartz says in Gavin’s fantasy land: Menziez Spanish site called A Chinoise story lists some details from Spanish archives and sources. The Language blog has an article about the linguistic portion of the evidence.
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There is also an update on that article. The Australian has a Yavin history article. Gavin Menzies has some very creative interpretations and some pretty convincing evidence, especially finding Chinese genomes in people at various points along the routes he proposes for the Chinese fleet.
His knowledge of currents and winds is far beyond that of a typical history scholar. But even an average reader like me found several glaring errors in the book ” First, he referred to huge waves encountered at sea and proposed they might have been tsunamis.
Tsunamis are barely detectable on the open sea, though they travel at menziee speeds. The long wave type “feels bottom” in shallow water and rises in response. Second, he wrote of Maya people on the west coast of Mexico. They live now, and lived then, on the Yucatan peninsula and into the highlands of Central America. Nauatl speaking groups lived on the west coast, and still do. Finding only these two rather glaring errors caused me to be suspicious part way through “” of the quality 141 his other findings, and to expect some of his facts and research may not have been of the highest integrity.
And yet, I think he may be onto something. Recall that in the 50s real scholars scoffed at the crazy idea of plate tectonics.
New ideas challenge old thinking, shake up staid and serious people. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I want to see more DNA comparisons before I decide.
Might he have more 1st hand knowledge of tsunamis than you find in Eugene?
Except for a few specific points, I don’t even think that Menzies would disagree with you much. He knows that many of his points are insufficient to be accepted by science.
His prose and the speculative nature of his historic recounting composes the special appeal of his books. He makes compelling if not always perfect arguments.
As ling his does not set historical research backward very far and possibly even leads to a regime of new historical truths being discovered, I am all for it. In fact, his work has pointed me to some actual evidence of certain aspects of history of which I was previously unaware, not that it was unknown to historians following academic tradition.
I recently read Menzie’s latest book on this subject and I have to say the ongoing Gain evidence is proving him more right than wrong.
I have no idea if this comment section is still running or if anyone is reading it What is of even more interest to me is the Minoan culture and the copper mines in Michigan. Also the remains of a culture memzies the Florida coast being dated well before the first clovis point.
It’s a real long term problem among established establishment true believers Skip to main content. You are here Pseudoscience: Lots of it around It is sad though that Menzies had to delve into the realms of pseudo-science, and held on to outrageous claims that lack evidence, such as: Of course to a person living in a monoculture five centuries ago, it is easy to confuse Native Americans with Asians.
The features are similar after all. Khalid makes a couple of points regarding potential holes in the theory. The Chinese had been very good astronomers for years before the voyages were made The Bimini rocks – apparently some of the rocks are not native to the area.
A plausible case is made for some of the rock to be ship ballast and the reason for building them is that they are slipways for re-launching repaired ships It is not clear whether Khalid has read the book but is relying on the TV program. Here is a list of resources on debunking the hypothesis by Gavin Menzies. An extensive site called the “” myth exposed. A site on Debunking Gavin Menzies.
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